Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Advice about earning an income with google adsense
Hi,
Thank you for your replies. With regard to the same subject.
Can you tell me how possible it would be to expect to earn .05c per page per day on a website containing around 50 pages?. I think that this would amount to around $17.50 a week, which is not that much I know. However, it would give me enough incentive to continue with building more pages and other websites?
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:00 am Post subject:
You are talking about something that is very doable. If you put up 50 pages tomorrow, you might wait a bit to get found in seach engines, but $2.50 a day is reasonable for a not too popular site. I can talk about this as that is what I'm doing on my "not to popular site". I have about 50 pages plus a blog that has a page a day since Jan 1, 2005
I'm still in the learning stages. Between 4 sites I earn about $125 to $200 a month with adsense and affiliate programs......90% coming from adsense.
I believe the key to it all is once you have your 50 pages to keep going. Make it 100 pages or 200 or 300 and then build another site or do them at the same time. _________________ Bob
yes, its all a numbers game. more sites, more pages will generally mean more money. but other factors must be taken into account also...
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject:
Charlie wrote:
As with many things in life, how about "quality not quantity"?
Quality's not a bad thing, but sometimes the goals of producing strictly quality content goes to the wayside in this business. Don't get me wrong; I hire out a good chunk of my content to authors whom are better with words than I.
Partly I believe 100+ page content sites do better than mini-sites is strictly because you have more pages to return in the SE's. Of course you can cover more topics, but it becomes harder to add 100's and 100's of pages in the same fashion.
Of course it can be argued that the content can all be of quality, but that takes huge amounts of time, as well.
But many things are a numbers game; it doesn't matter the quality SOMETIMES. Take McDonalds here in the US and worldwide for that matter. Is the food amazing? Not really.... Would you travel to another city let alone another state if McDonalds wanted to build and run the highest quality facility? Again, not really.
I go there because it's fast and it's right down the street. Too them, it is partly a numbers game. Same thing for Walmart, too.
Yea, being online, you're not tethered by using businesses close to you geographically. But sometimes it's just easier to get more traffic and rank with a 1,000 page site instead of a 50 page site.
Now the means of generating those 1000 pages is up for debate.
You could always write them all or higher an author at $5-$10 an article. _________________ Robert
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You're full of it... You go to McDonalds for the Happy meal!
But I have to agree with the quality/quantity aspect.
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Partly I believe 100+ page content sites do better than mini-sites is strictly because you have more pages to return in the SE's.
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But sometimes it's just easier to get more traffic and rank with a 1,000 page site instead of a 50 page site.
Yes, it is a good approach - at least as long as people trust the SEs to deliver useful results.
Increasingly, I'm finding I must use ever more complicated searches just to filter out the low level content spam.
Considering we're led to believe most people use very simple seraches, how long before the poor quality, mass-produced content starts to impact on the SERPS enough to discredit all web content in the average person's eyes?
We're back to this empowerment without barriers issue again. At least we can easily dismiss irrelevant cloaked results from the SERPs, but content has to be read (at least in part) before a judgement can be made.
As a searcher, give me blatant promotion over poor content (subtly monetised) any time. They'll both end up in the same virtual bin, but I'll waste much less time on the former.
I suppose, at the end of the day, we all have different cut off points when it comes to the quality vs productivity trade-off.
Cheers,
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject:
Hi, I am new to this forum, I have been using adsense 0n all of my 6
websites, have approx. 6300 pages, ads on all,have had a pretty good
stream of income getting at least a payment per month from Google.
These last few weeks have noticed a slight decline in revenue, so have
done a bit of speculating, tempted even to try PPC clubs, only to find that
subscribers to adsense have lost thier account due to fraudulent clickthru's
I've been doing a bit of experimenting, and find that you may have many
sites and pages, but it all boils down to content, for ex. if you have
submited to many search engines, thats good, you need to follow up and
re-submit in a reasonable time limit, but getting back to my experiments,
If a users lands on a site or page after a search and if the content is not
what he or she is expecting, the user will only stay a few seconds, you
have lost a potential customer or ad click.
So content is highly relevent, you create a page with good interesting
content,that keeps you vistor awhile, that's good, the page may be long,
your visitor reads on, he/she's stiil here, excellent!, where your "AD",
your ads possibly at the top or middle or bottom of the page, I have seen
many suggestions where to place a Google ad, and tend to disagree.
So these last few days I have been making pages with floating ads, now I
see that when my visitor gets bored, my ads are in full view, have noticed
an increase just in these few days, pageviews, clicks and percentages
showing well, I have not included any keywords on these pages, only rely
on the content and googles ad placement, so far working very well.
I don't rely solely on google for my income I do have many websites that
are commercial, so in conclusion, I am looking for feedback on my
project, of course no way complete, but the idea.
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject:
swefil2005 wrote:
If a users lands on a site or page after a search and if the content is not
what he or she is expecting, the user will only stay a few seconds, you
have lost a potential customer or ad click.
A competing theory I know many popular affiliates use is the opposite: to publish sub-par content or horrible site design along with Adsense ads to encourage the visitors to quickly leave via Adsense clicks.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:06 am Post subject:
swefil2005 wrote:
I am looking for feedback on my
project, of course no way complete, but the idea.
It looks a very clever idea. Thanks for sharing that with us.
However, only your testing can tell whether it's a good idea or not.
Perhaps because of the way you're using frames, you have the same title "<title>www.adsomesense.com</title>" on every page of the site.
As you probably know, after links to your site, the page title is the most important factor in search engine optimization, so you're penalizing yourself really badly there.
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according to a post in another forum, one can expect to earn $10 from a page per year. So, with 50 pages, you can earn $500 per year. If you keep adding content to your site, say 1 page per day... you can get some good revenue after some time... _________________ Adsense Tips
1) It matters very much where you put your adsense ads and the colors you choose. Do they blend in with your content or are they loud (even obnoxious) and shout CLICK ME?
I have found that ads with the same colors as my content perform very well when I make it look like the ads are part of my content. I want people to see ads on my site and think they are just part of the content.
But this may not work for you or maybe it will work beautifully. You will never know until you test. There is no substitute for testing!
2) Once you have ads placed well it all comes down to traffic, traffic, traffic!
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I like the Quality / Quantity debate and in my experience which side of that line you have to fall on will completely depend on the niche you're targetting.
Adsense can work equally well on above par content sites and below par content sites, providing on the latter your site design and it's first impression manages to break what I call the 'back habit' (where the user clicks back).
The thing to remember with Adsense is that to make money a visitor has to go forward. A well designed and written page should facilitate what feels like a natural progression.
I think you can realise your expectations rather quickly.
Once you start generating some financial rewards from your hard effort you release it is possible and I hope it will be enough to drive you further into the wonderful world of internet marketing.
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