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Colin McDougall
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 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Modestmouser,
The sandbox should be viewed more as a quality or trust filter than some kind of aging process. Essentially it comes down to an errosion of trust, with every action that you take that is not deemed trustworthy by Google, you lose trust points until it hits the point where your site experiences a sandbox effect.
With every new site I build now I get at least top 30 rankings within a very short period of time and(days or weeks) in some cases top 10 rankings. Not to mention the Google traffic on "odd-ball" search terms in as little as 24 hours!
Don't over-think things and just VEO the heck out of your site 
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modestmouser
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, so what if you start building a site, filling it with high quality content, only using 'white hat' linking methods (never linking across your own sites, avoiding link farms, etc.), then you get onto Google for about a month, then totally drop off?
'Cause this has happened with about ten of my newer sites, and from browsing forums, it's happened to many others in the same way.
So how did we supposedly get 'bad points' from Google - just for using keyword based pages?? Doesn't that seem a bit absurd?
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JoeWatson
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: James Martell's Methods |
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I would like an answer to that one as well
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nyfalcon
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:40 am Post subject: |
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I wonder if I--love--colin.com is available. Sorry just couldn't resist myself.
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BobShark
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robertb
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| modestmouser wrote: |
I guess the question right now is, does anyone have a Martell-style site that is getting much Google traffic? |
I guess it's how you define "much." To be honest, MSN and Yahoo drive most of my traffic to those style of sites, but I've noticed something recently.
My older "Martell" sites are bouncing back into Google. I imagine the age of the site is a factor, along with me adding more links pointing to my sites over time. Also, I've been adding new content and updating my old content on a regular basis so that things are more "fresh" and not stale.
Also, my content isn't poor quality, it's good stuff that's not stuffed with keywords.
No offense to you Colin, but if anyone here had looked at Colin's older sites you could understand why they got the boot.
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modestmouser
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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That is refreshing - my oldest Martell site is just now (within the last week or so) starting to get a little Google traffic... so I'm hoping it is a time and building-up thing.
I'm just going to keep testing my non-JM sites and keep adding - like you said - quality content to the Martell ones.
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wfhnow
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: Great Insights |
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This is a great topic i was just a james site and really considering getting the handbook. i listen to all the audio clips and sounded really interesting. Though most of the clips was back in 2002 nothing from 2006... will still consider since i just join with CJ.com
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edhelp1
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| modestmouser wrote: | | I finally got to listen to the SEO Radio show archive - I thought there were some good points. |
Yep that one was hilarious.. if you listen to Brad he sounds as though hes about to fall asleep LOL.. i havent a clue how colin made it on to seo radio when really his sites are non seo
so it made the conversation sound like an interview with a
Porn site and a Anti Porn site
If you have a good ear for the way people feel and what they are really doing on a phone.. ( technique learned over time ) you can almost picture him putting his hand over the phone and shouting to his secretary..
" Hey wanda.. who the hell booked this guy, im gonna kick their ass " ahahahahha |
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Colin McDougall
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| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Hey edhelp1,
I was just poking around to check out referring URL to The VEO Report and noticed some traffic coming from this thread.
Your comments:
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Yep that one was hilarious.. if you listen to Brad he sounds as though hes about to fall asleep LOL.. i havent a clue how colin made it on to seo radio when really his sites are non seo
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If you have a good ear for the way people feel and what they are really doing on a phone.. ( technique learned over time ) you can almost picture him putting his hand over the phone and shouting to his secretary..
" Hey wanda.. who the hell booked this guy, im gonna kick their ass "
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Rolling the clock forward now
Brad and Andy have jumped all over what I was talking about on SEO Radio. Hmmm...Seems what I was talking about is the new age of SEO or should I say VEO
Take a look at the Stomper teaser video series and listen to them talk about optimization for visitors.
Just thought I'd point that out 
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veddermountain
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| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Brad is probably trying to hire "Wanda" back as we speak 
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