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its_me_shaners
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 Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: I'm confused about duplicate content penalties |
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Good morning and happy Friday everyone !!!
Im a little confued about this whole duplicate content thingy..
Ok heres a scenario: I have an article on my website. I want to promote my website so I post that article on some article site or two or three. Do I get penalized for duplicate content?
Now should I not repost that article , or should I post some other blurb I have written but not posted on my websites article page.
Now If I wrtie an article and post it to many sites with my resource box info. (this may sound dumb-ish) do I get penalized because I have post a link to my website in the resouce box? (yeah that does sound dumb)
at any rate Im confused about this.
Oh yeah now if someone goes to an article site and republishes my article on their website, or copies an article from my website onto theirs do I get penalized as duplicate content? How do the SE's determine where the original came from and who gets penalized?
I think I need another coffee.
Have a profitable day everyone !!!
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MarkDavidNY.com
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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This is a question often asked at SES shows. There is no easy answer. I would say typically, whichever content the spider finds first is credited as the author. Many site owners get burned because of this.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Those are really good questions. Because I haven't found any answers I'm 100% sure I believe, I've adopted a very cautious approach to duplicate content.
At the moment, it's possible to find sites which are publishing similar content and yet rank well.
However, I assume that search engines will inevitably get better at identifying duplicate content. My guess is that sites which publish only unique content will do better in the search engines.
So I usually don't publish an article on my site and get it published elsewhere. I think a better tactic is to write a DIFFERENT article to publish elsewhere.
Perhaps I'm being overly cautious, but better safe than sorry, I reckon.
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Charlie
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:03 am Post subject: |
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I'm another Mr Cautious.
| AllanGardyne wrote: | | So I usually don't publish an article on my site and get it published elsewhere. I think a better tactic is to write a DIFFERENT article to publish elsewhere. |
An option I like is to write articles for distribution that introduce the articles you publish. To get the next installment, they have to visit your site.
Cheers,
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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If you were to put the content on your site first and let the spiders find it. You get credit for it.
Then submit it to article directories.
If there is a "penalty" I would think the website that uses the duplicate content would recieve it not the originator.
I like Charlie"s idea as it gives the reader a solid incentive to visit your site instead of a boring bio box
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| Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | f you were to put the content on your site first and let the spiders find it. You get credit for it.
Then submit it to article directories. |
Actually there is no qaurantee that your site will get credit first. I have tested this on some of my sites.
The best strategy for submitting article would be
1. Submit your old articles(3 month old) which are already indexed
2. Submit another copy of the same article on your site
3. create a whole new article and submit it
4. Split the article and submit half of it to article directory and link back to your site for another half.
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mbongwe
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| Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Charlie wrote: | I'm another Mr Cautious.
| AllanGardyne wrote: | | So I usually don't publish an article on my site and get it published elsewhere. I think a better tactic is to write a DIFFERENT article to publish elsewhere. |
An option I like is to write articles for distribution that introduce the articles you publish. To get the next installment, they have to visit your site.
Cheers,
Charlie. |
This is really good idea. But I find it hard to make such an article interesting enough, so other webmasters publish it on their sites or ezines
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Charlie
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| mbongwe wrote: | | But I find it hard to make such an article interesting enough, so other webmasters publish it on their sites or ezines |
Well, making the article interesting enough is always necessary. Think "solid information", "unique spin", "just for your niche" or "a bit controversial" as ways of jump starting the brain - yours and theirs.
Regarding my approach specifically, letting others publish the first in a series of articles works well as "an introduction." You have to give something solid away in part 1 - but certainly not everything.
Cheers,
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damsonlee
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I am just wondering why many free articles directories, which publishes mostly duplicated contents, are still ranking very well?
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talk2christie
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Tipster - I think thats the best idea. Put the article on your own website first and then to article directories.
However, the duplicity issue is still not 100% clear 
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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This strategy has not hurt me yet.
- Write an article and build a web page with the keyword phrase in the title. Put the new web page on my Site Map.
- Do a short blog post and link back to the web page I just built in the post.
- Submit my article to ArticleMarketer.com and a couple of other places that AM does not reach. In the bio box I usually just link back to my home page.
Other times I will write an article and just post the whole article on my blog using the keyword phrase as the title of the blog post. I will then take the post page and put the link to it on my Site Map. When it pings it seems to get out all over the place. It this case I do not submit it to any directories.
After 4 years online I just use the simple philosophy of, is what I am doing helpful rather than trying to be tricky. I agree with Allan. Better to ere on the side of caution.
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talk2christie
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Jeff - Even I'll try that out!
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Roy Carter
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: I'm With Allan On This One |
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Interesting discussion, but I have to say that I am definitely with Allan on this one.
I never use articles on any of my websites that I am going to submit to the article directories.
If I use any content articles from elsewhere, I will
always add an introduction and a summary to ensure that the page looks somewhat different to the spiders. I only use these type of articles for sites that I use for Adsense income though.
Like Allan I would err on the side of caution when considering duplicate content.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: Article submission |
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Google have been snapping up algorithm specialist companies and are increasingly getting smarter. You may have noticed that there are tons of free article sites coming on to the market for sale. One of the reasons is that a script is now readily available for free to set up an article directory.
The point is that the same articles are doing the rounds again and again. I know this is happening and I know the effect it is having. There is only one way forward and that is to stay away from free article directories. Do not use their content nor place your own content on them. Its a double edge sword. Hold on to your precious unique articles and market your own site.
Also refer to another thread I wrote... http://www.associateprograms.com/discus/ftopic23125.html
Hope this helps
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: |
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If you place a large chunk of the same text on other sites, you may incur dup content. Though, you may be the original owner, age analysis and PR factoring can identify you as the offending site.
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