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links2see
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 Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:03 pm Post subject: Is Frontpage Worth It? |
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I've been building my website using my host companies sitebuilder and freehand HTML for the past 4 years. Lately I've been having technical problems with the sitebuilder and my host tech support hasn't been much help. I was wondering what everyone thought of Frontpage. Is it worth buying? I don't want to spend much money on software. Since I know HTML, I don't want the Frontpage to seem too easy.
Thanks for your time,
Kristian 
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Debs
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Is Frontpage Worth It? |
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| links2see wrote: | I've been building my website using my host companies sitebuilder and freehand HTML for the past 4 years. Lately I've been having technical problems with the sitebuilder and my host tech support hasn't been much help. I was wondering what everyone thought of Frontpage. Is it worth buying? I don't want to spend much money on software. Since I know HTML, I don't want the Frontpage to seem too easy.
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I used Frontpage for quite a while, then went to Dreamweaver which I love. But either way, they have limitations. I am also checking code in the codeview window (you can do this with either program) to fix stuff, it does make it tons easier to get the format down, but you still have the ability to completely code by hand if you want. Frontpage is cheaper than Dreamweaver, so it's a good program to start on.
Just keep in mind you have to have a host who supports Frontpage extensions if you want to use the extensions. I tried many times but they corrupted so easily it was a pain to maintain them so I stopped using them.
Just my 2 cents,
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edburdo
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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I dislike FrontPage for one reason. MS doesn't write clean HTML code.
Don't get me wrong. Dreamweaver will reformat your code as well (you have preferences to control it), but there is very little "extra" code that Dreamweaver puts in.
FrontPage (like the rest of the MS Office suite) will put in lots of extra code. FrontPage will also allow "illegal" html (stuff that IE will "figure out" for you and display properly anyways) that Dreamweaver will warn you about.
You can try the 30 day trial of Dreamweaver at www.dreamweaver.com
I don't know if you can get a trial of FrontPage. Probably.
So anyhow, that is my $0.02 - I use Dreamweaver myself for stuff. I find it more customizable, and faster.
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dk
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 10:54 pm Post subject: This is my choice... |
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Hi Kristian!
I use Dreamweaver for some years now and it is the best program in my opinion to build a website. I've worked with Frontpage too, but if you have a little bit of knowledge about HTML and look at the code, - forget it! A lot of useless information (maybe only MS knows about it). As stated before you also need a host with Frontpage Extensions for hosting. If you have the money I recommend you to buy DW MX and have some fun building a webpage. If you are a student you can get it a lot cheaper!
All the best
dk
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Colligan
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 3:36 am Post subject: Is FrontPage Worth It? |
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What's the best product for building a Web site? Depends what kind of Web site you want to build. If you just want to create the content, FrontPage is king as it does all of the work for you. If you want to do a lot of behind the scenes programming, etc., Dreamweaver is probably what you are looking for.
It is a lot like Microsoft Word versus Adobe Pagemaker. Nobody would ever recommend writing a letter to Mom in Pagemaker and nobody would ever recommend laying out the New York Times in Microsoft Word yet for some reason I can never understand, people talk about the two products like they are the same thing.
Dreamweaver is a complex product for producing complex Web sites. FrontPage is a Microsoft Office product with a familiar interface for producing Web sites quickly and easily.
I make my living producing sites in FrontPage (so do a lot of people). See the links below for more.
Regarding the FrontPage HTML issue:
1) It isn't nearly as bad as most people report it to be. In short, it gets better with every version and the new version (FrontPage 2003 - comes out 10/21) produces some of the cleanest code I've ever seen.
2) If you have to fix existing code, there is a popular tool - http://www.frontpagepoweredit.com.
3) What is your biggest concern, the HTML that the browser (or nosy surfers) renders or the content your customer sees? If you are worried about the stuff behind the curtain, Dreamweaver is the product for you.
Is FrontPage worth it? Without a doubt.
Is Dreamweaver worth it? Without a doubt.
What you are trying to do dictates which tool you should use to do it.
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markt
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:11 pm Post subject: FrontPage Express |
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Hi Kristian,
If you want to get a taster for frontpage before spending any money you could try frontpage express first.
Before anyone cries out - I know MS no longer supports FPE, howerver there are still plenty of places to get hold of it.
If you're interested post a reply here & I'll dig out the info on where to find it & how to go about installing it.
all the best
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Rupert
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If you know enough HTML to get by then you actually have another option. Homesite. Homesite is now made by the same people as Dreamweaver (Macromedia bought it because it was so good).
It is like a super HTML editor and makes hand coding very easy by completing your tags for you and storing HTML snippets. You can also drag images into the windows and Homsite will create the correct tags for you. It also has a very useful HTML library that will help you improve your coding.
It is like a stripped down version of Dreamweaver and nothing happens behind the scenes that you don't know about. It's very good and I use it in preference to Dreamweaver now.
It is also half the cost of Frontpage and a quarter the cost of Dreamweaver MX.
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edburdo
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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I used to use HomeSite long ago. It is a very nice editor. You can grab a free trial from www.macromedia.com
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