Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:23 pm Post subject: 5 pillar affiliate
Hi There,
To be honest all the info at first is a little confusing, but after a while you begin to find your way around and before you know it -your dipping in & out of every screen.
I have problems with the "math" of the commissions-its not all needed.
Cheers,
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Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 1120 Location: London, England
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:40 pm Post subject:
Hi Charlie,
The 5p program? The best on the 'net!
As Nigel says, a little confusing at first but you soon get used to it. And Ken certainly goes all out to help his affiliates succeed, if there is something that he could provide to help you make sales, then he does provide it.
But, maybe some folks have been confused because I think I remember Ken saying, in one of the 5p reports, that he is planning a new simplified version.
And Ken certainly goes all out to help his affiliates succeed, if there is something that he could provide to help you make sales, then he does provide it.
Yes, the support tools are both imaginative and plentiful, in my opinion, too...
But what about the commission structure? Do you really find this easy to understand? It took me two readings with a calculator, pen and paper just to get to a position where I think I understand it.
Larry Chamberlain wrote:
But, maybe some folks have been confused because I think I remember Ken saying, in one of the 5p reports, that he is planning a new simplified version.
That's what I thought he said... combined with the "elimination" of "dormant" affiliates!
All the best,
Charlie. _________________ "Before I speak, I have something important to say."
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Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 1120 Location: London, England
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:45 pm Post subject:
Hi Charlie,
Quote:
But what about the commission structure? Do you really find this easy to understand? It took me two readings with a calculator, pen and paper just to get to a position where I think I understand it.
Well, I don't claim to understand all the fine print of it, but enough to understand first time buyers v's repeat buyers, lifetime commissions etc.
Quote:
That's what I thought he said... combined with the "elimination" of "dormant" affiliates!
No I don't Understand them. Would someone care to explain simply what is required of someone when you sign up? The benefits? Do most people who have purchased SBI sign up for the program?
No I don't Understand them. Would someone care to explain simply what is required of someone when you sign up? The benefits?
Currently, there is nothing required of an affiliate, but Ken has talked about dropping people who don't send visitors and closing the program to anyone wanting to join in the near future.
He has talked about this from the start (and I dismissed it as a ploy), but it looks as though he really is planning to go that route. Still nothing to lose, from your point of view, though.
If I were you, Charles, I'd visit SiteSell.com and sign up. You can download the "guide" and get all the details.
charles wrote:
Do most people who have purchased SBI sign up for the program?
I have no idea, but I can't think of a much better way of preselling something than actually demonstrating the results you get by using it yourself. As you have SBI, subtly promoting it from a site "hosted through" it, might be a very good idea indeed.
Hope this helps,
Charlie. _________________ "Before I speak, I have something important to say."
- Groucho Marx
Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 5809 Location: by the beach, Australia
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 11:01 pm Post subject:
To earn lifetime commissions, you need lifetime customers. You want to earn a commission on every future purchase by that customer. Here's how to get them.
I've just checked with Linda Pace at SiteSell Suport to make sure I understand when permanent cookies are baked.
This happens on three occasions (I'm vastly simplifying her words):
1. When one of your visitors buys a SiteSell product for the first time.
2. When someone you refer signs up as your sub-affiliate.
3. When someone you refer joins the SiteSell Value Exchange.
Linda says: "Every person referred who registers their site in the
SiteSell Value Exchange will be considered a $0 purchase
and receives *the referrer's* PERMANENT cookie -- in other words, that person becomes *the referrer's* customer for
*life.* No matter where, when or what s/he buys, or if they sign up as an affiliate."
Linda also says: "No other viral tools or RR URLs produce a permanent
pre-sale or pre-signup cookie at this time."
So there you have it, three ways to bake permanent cookies and earn lifetime commissions.
Allan, thanks for clarifying that for us. I don't promote Sitesell as an affiliate since I don't have a marketing site. I do, however, plan to add a new page to my site on "How I did it" so will be sure to promote them there. Hey, it's an SBi site, what can I say lol
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Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 5809 Location: by the beach, Australia
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 11:35 pm Post subject:
Charlie wrote:
But what about the commission structure? Do you really find this easy to understand? It took me two readings with a calculator, pen and paper just to get to a position where I think I understand it.
Of course it's not easy to understand. Neither is Ken. Why would a multi-talented genius who has made millions do what he does?
Charlie, you have to appreciate that you're a VERY rare breed. I mean, really, what percentage of the affiliate population would go to such extremes? One in a 1,000? One in 10,000? Maybe.
I think most of Ken's affiliates will just take his word for it that the purpose of the complicated structure is to create a fair program.
You earn income when you make sales, you earn income when your sub-affiliates make sales, you earn income when a lifetime customer buys a second or third product. You earn $100 residual income on sales of Site Built It.
That's about all most affiliates need to understand, I reckon. That's enough to get them kick-started in the mornings.
To me, there quickly comes a point when it's more important to concentrate on generating income than fussing over details.
Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 258 Location: The Netherlands
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 12:34 am Post subject:
I voted 1.
Charlie wrote:
But what about the commission structure? Do you really find this easy to understand? It took me two readings with a calculator, pen and paper just to get to a position where I think I understand it.
I've worked with sales people all my career, and found out that all they can understand (or have a need to) is the bottom line. They have infected me! It turns out that all I now want to know is the bottom line. All that went into calculating the bottom line doesn't concern me one bit. The bottom line tells me how I'm doing, and if I don't like the return for my efforts... I might take my business elsewhere!
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since I don't have a marketing site. I do, however, plan to add a new page to my site on "How I did it" 
It turns out that all I now want to know is the bottom line. All that went into calculating the bottom line doesn't concern me one bit. The bottom line tells me how I'm doing, and if I don't like the return for my efforts... I might take my business elsewhere!