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hayilaa6700



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:59 pm    Post subject: First time out need help with links! Reply with quote

Ok I haven't been in here for over a month going back and forth with my new web sites. I am having problems with what i have been told were Anchor links Confused . And links from one page to a SPECIFIC part of A DIFFERENT PAGE. If anyone can help me with that it would be greatly appreciated. Also I would like to read your thoughts about the sites in general. I haven't had a lot of experience with designing and putting together a web site. So I think it would be a good thing to read some CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISIM Wink . OK I'M in a rush got to finish up some more stuff. here are the links:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hayilaa6700,

Get your priorities right! "Rush" = rudeness if you desire un-RUSHED answers. As for the little shout about "constructive criticism" - my hunch is you may get none if your manners don't improve. I have re-read your previous messages - you need to take a bit more time and soften your demands.

This is a friendly site and you need to spend time explaining clearly what you want so that others may do the same with their answers. You should have seen that with your previous exchanges.

Just my observations!

Nevertheless. welcome back to the AssociatePrograms.com Message Board. I hope it can help you as you search the topics, browse the parent site and make your less rushed queries.

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hayilaa6700



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:28 pm    Post subject: MISUNDERSTANDING Reply with quote

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Get your priorities right! "Rush" = rudeness if you desire un-RUSHED answers.


Maybe you misunderstod what I was saying. My point was that I was in a rush to do other things on my "to do" list and that the message would be short. Not that I was asking for rushed replies.

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As for the little shout about "constructive criticism" - my hunch is you may get none if your manners don't improve.


I am just asking for clear criticism that might help improve my site.

Hope that cleared everything up.

Thanks,


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a look at http://www.greathealthsolutions.com/

Here's a rushed observation...

David Ogilvy, one the planet's greatest advertising experts, says in his book "Ogilvy on Advertising" (a fascinating, very useful book):

1. White print on a black background is difficult to read.

2. All capital letters are difficult to read.

Many tests have reached the same conclusions.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Allans findings... use normal case for your text, and go with a light background with dark text. People will not get tired as easily, and they will read more...

Also, I suggest you turn off the page transitions. They slow down your site, and most people find them annoying.
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hayilaa6700



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:16 pm    Post subject: thanks for your observations Reply with quote

thanks for your replies i will definitely take them into consideration.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: First time out need help with links! Reply with quote

hayilaa6700 wrote:
I am having problems with what i have been told were Anchor links Confused . And links from one page to a SPECIFIC part of A DIFFERENT PAGE. If anyone can help me with that it would be greatly appreciated.

If you explain exactly what it is you need to know, you'll increase your chances of receiving help.
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hayilaa6700



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe this will help.......... my glossary is somewhat long and i need to make it easier for my visitors to find the term they are looking for, so i thought I would add the alphabet at the top of the page so that when they were looking for a certain word that started with say S for example they could click on that "S" link and then it would take them to the part of the page where the terms starting with S began.

My other problem is that i would like to link certain words on some of my pages to certain parts of another page. Someone told me that was called bookmarking but i am not sure if that term was correct. For example I would like for the words "small business hosting" on my home page to link to the part of my "web host" page that has a list of small business hosting companies.

Well i hope that was much clearer and I would appreciate any help you could give concerning that.

Thanks,


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, you are referring to anchor links ... there are 2 parts to an anchor link, the first part is naming the anchor, or where you would want the visitor to land ... in your example it would be the different alphabetical subcategories of your glossary, and the subsection of your web host page.

Decide on what you want to call the anchor ... in your glossary you might go with just the alphabet, or you may go with keyphrases, that's up to you. I will use "nameit" as the name for the receiving tag. The html structure for the anchor is:

<a name="nameit"></a> You would need one of these at each section in your glossary where people may want to visit.

Now, for the sending part of the anchor link, it is a standard <a href> link with one exception ... it has #nameit at the end of the url, and the url must have the full page name in it ...

http://www.domain.com/index.html#nameit

unless the anchor link is on the same page as the referring link.

So for your glossary, your links at the top would look like this:

<a href="#a">A</a>
<a href="#b">B</a>
<a href="#c">C</a>
<a href="#d">D</a>

and your anchor links at the necessary intervals might look like this:

<a name="a"></a>
<a name="b"></a>
<a name="c"></a>
<a name="d"></a>

So for the words "small business hosting" on your home page to link to the part of my "web host" page ...

On the web host page, at the point you want them to skip to, enter

<a name="smallbusinesshosting"></a>Then whatever text appears on the page would be here. Don't put anything between the anchor tag start and close ... ">NOTHING HERE</a>

Then on your home page, you would link the text as follows:

<a href="http://www.domain.com/web-hosting.html#smallbusinesshosting">Small Business Hosting Solutions</a>

Keep 3 things in mind ...

1. anchor links are case sensitive
2. and may not contain spaces or special characters
3. you must use the full page name in the link, unless it is on the same page as the anchor, then you can link directly <a href="#nameit">

Hope I didn't confuse you Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only correction I would like to make, is that you should be using
id="" in place of name=""

the name= parameter is deprecated. Meaning its no longer part of the current HTML set. It will still work, but should be phased out.

ID is the current way to go.

More on this here:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/3189
http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/valid_top_anchor.cfm

or at WWW3... which I do not have the link for...
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name (optional)
(HTML 4.0) Identifies a fragment within an HTML document. These named fragments become the potential target of a link. This attribute is included in a deprecated module in XHTML 1.0 - and if you use it, you must use the id attribute as well. Furthermore, both the name and the id attributes must have the same value.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Referring to the Health site:

As others have said, get rid of the all-caps and page transitions ASAP. And don't change text colours on every page - it's best to stick with dark writing on a light background, and keep it consistent throughout your site.

The content could be cleaned up a bit, too. There are several spelling mistakes (e.g. "If your tired" instead of "If you're tired"). Questions should end in a question-mark ("?"). Break content down into paragraphs to make it easier for your poor old visitor to read it (e.g. "About Us" page). Some of your pages ramble a bit - the worst is the "About Us" page, which seems to repeat the same things again and again. Get straight to the point of what you're trying to say.

Referring to the Web Hosting site:

Same comments about text colours, transitions, etc.

I'd add more actual content. I didn't see anything within the first few pages I read that enticed me to keep reading. I can do my own Google search for a bunch of web hosts or designers - an affiliate site needs to be more than just a mish-mash of garish, flashing, animated banners all clashing for my attention.

Use company names properly. For example, "Yahoo!" is the correct company name, not "yahoo". There are a lot of other spelling and grammar errors, especially in the Glossary. Many of the glossary definitions are incorrect, incomplete, or confusing.

None of this criticism is intended to be insulting - just honest feedback that I hope you'll take in the spirit in which it was intended.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 7:13 pm    Post subject: Thank you Reply with quote

I just wanted to say thanks to all who replied and I appreciate all your help with the Anchor Links I will definitely try to apply that today. I am going to go over the spelling and go over it with a fine tooth comb. Once again thanks and I will take your opinions about the text color and background into consideration. Have a great day.
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