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Gavan
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:24 pm Post subject: James Martell and Yahoo |
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Hi everybody, this is my first post here.
I have been building sites according to James Martell's system for a while now and I'm very satisfied with my results so far. I have noticed though that for some reason my sites do a lot better in Yahoo and MSN than in Google. I'm getting hundreds of visitors a day from Yahoo and only about a few from Google. Does anyone have an explanation for this? |
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dcristo
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Thats pretty normal for a new site. Are you optimisng for fairly competitive keyword phrases?
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Most of my sites do better in Yahoo than Google too. From what I understand, Yahoo's algorithm is similar to Google's algorithm from about a year ago, with somewhat more weight put on keyword text in the URL and title.
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Gavan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I have 7 sites total. While some of them are new, others have been online for more than a year now and still don't have good Google rankings. With most of these sites I am not targeting competitive keywords. James Martell's methods do work very well for Yahoo, and my income from these sites is great (mostly from Adsense). |
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dcristo
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dcristo
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| Gavan wrote: | | With most of these sites I am not targeting competitive keywords |
What would you define as competitive?
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Gavan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Well, most of the sites in the Google SERPs that rank well for these keywords don't have a very high PR (about PR4-5).
As for the sandbox, yes, I have heard of it, but shouldn't a site that is more than a year old be out of the sandbox by now? |
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dcristo
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Gavan wrote: | | Quote: | What would you define as competitive?
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Well, most of the sites in the Google SERPs that rank well for these keywords don't have a very high PR (about PR4-5). |
Dont just base rankings off PR - there's alot more to ranking well than just getting high PR.
| Gavan wrote: | | As for the sandbox, yes, I have heard of it, but shouldn't a site that is more than a year old be out of the sandbox by now? |
It should. It depends though, when did you begin optimising the site and start getting links? I am of the belief the sandbox is a link age thing.
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Gavan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It should. It depends though, when did you begin optimising the site and start getting links? I am of the belief the sandbox is a link age thing. |
I started getting links for this site in February 2004 (I think). So it's actually a little less than a year ago. Still a long time though. This site now has a PR of 5 and about 50 high PR backlinks. It gets maybe 2-3 visitors a day from Google.... |
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dcristo
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Many SEOs say that sites launched after March 2004 were affected, so really you wouldnt have obtained many links before then. Just stick to your guns and you'll get there.
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Gavan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Just stick to your guns and you'll get there. |
Thanks, I will. Do you know how long the sandbox usually lasts? |
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dcristo
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Gavan wrote: | | Quote: | | Just stick to your guns and you'll get there. |
Thanks, I will. Do you know how long the sandbox usually lasts? |
If you have worked hard enough on optimisation you should begin to start seeing good results within 3-6 months for fairly competitive terms. For more obscure phrases you should rank well within a much shorter time frame.
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