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modestmouser
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 Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:39 pm Post subject: Do you use reprint articles in your Martell sites? |
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I thought about posting reprint articles on my site, I do write at least 100 of my own articles for each site, so I'm not looking for a way out of that, but I figured it would be easy to post those as well.
So I wrote their support desk about this, and got the answer that it'd be a waste of time because the outbound link(s) would take too much off the page rendering it worthless. I find this a little hard to believe that it would take that much away. Any thoughts on or experience with this?
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nyfalcon
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I would not put an article reprint on my site it would get hit with a duplicate content penalty with google once they find it. just my opiuon though |
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robertb
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| nyfalcon wrote: | | I would not put an article reprint on my site it would get hit with a duplicate content penalty with google once they find it. just my opiuon though |
No necessarily. If your article's page has a higher PR, it'll beat them out. In addition, Google's duplicate content filters are pretty basic at best. Placing the article on different sites, with different navigation/layouts, and adding a brief intro paragraph to the article, will generally keep your article from getting picked up as duplicate.
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Vancouver
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nyfalcon
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| An article that I have written specifically for pad will never be put on my site either. Thats just me, I write seperate articles that I submit to goarticles to get shared on other sites and include my tag line. I am paranoid about duplicate content and consider the few artciles that are submitted working for me. |
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MakeMoney
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| I agree with nyfalcon |
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Vancouver
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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There should be no reason not to use articles you've syndicated out on your own site. If it gets filtered out as duplicate content (I hesitate to call it a penalty since it doesn'affect your rankings on other pages), you just don't have it show in the search engines. You still get the benefit of the additional content for your visitors and you still get the benefit of links flowing out on those pages to your other pages (link reputation).
Likewise, use the reprint articles if they are beneficial to your visitors and you think they are of high quality. This leaking of pagerank issue is not really an issue if you link to all your reprint articles from a sitemap with one link from, say, your home page.
James reprints his PAD articles -- he said his error in crosslinking because of those articles being reprinted on his sites caused his sites to fall. Just be careful you don't crosslink.
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johncpu
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with vancouver. I've never seen nor heard of anyone penalized for an article on one site being duplicated on another. That's what syndication, article banks, and PR releases are for. The risk is duplicate content on your own site.
| Quote: | | James .... said his error in crosslinking because of those articles being reprinted on his sites caused his sites to fall. |
Is this something new, or did I miss it ? If I recall correctly, his statement on this forum was that it was due to plagiarism. |
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robertb
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | James .... said his error in crosslinking because of those articles being reprinted on his sites caused his sites to fall. |
Is this something new, or did I miss it ? If I recall correctly, his statement on this forum was that it was due to plagiarism. |
Do you subscribe to his BUZZ newsletter? This is what he believed the cause to be when some of his sites were banned a few months back. Perhaps you're thinking of this most recent ban.
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johncpu
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | This is what he believed the cause to be when some of his sites were banned a few months back. Perhaps you're thinking of this most recent ban. |
Yikes, are you saying he's been banned twice ?? I thought it was just one penalty on all his 1st-in sites. What's "the most recent ban" ? |
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robertb
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Everything was perfectly fine until a few months back, when a good chunk of his 1st-in sites were hit. It appeared to be some accidental cross links between his 1st-in sites and the sites where he posted all of his history and glossary terms articles.
In my opinion, this more recent ban of the remaining 1st-in sites are probably just an artifact of the previous ban that Google has finally gotten caught up to. This is the one that sparked James' reply on this forum. I think the reason he didn't believe it was cross linking this second time, was because they should have been taken down by the previous hit a few months back.
But I guess we'll never know...
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johncpu
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| Ah, ok. I just view it as one slowly spreading ban, although I see it hasnt quite reached all of his sites. It's a shame. But with all the speculation, I've never seen him directly state it was just a cross-linking error. If it were that simple, I believe he would have gone to great lengths to say so. I hope you aren't, but you may be right that we'll never know. |
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robertb
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| johncpu wrote: | | But with all the speculation, I've never seen him directly state it was just a cross-linking error. |
The only place James himself said this was after the initial ban a few months back on his BUZZ newsletter.
Besides that, it's anyones guess.
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