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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject:
Great thread, thanks guys.
Yea, I thought brain was the best answer.
Until I read persistence. Persistence is probably more important than smarts.
Ok, can I confess a frustration here?
Somebody will ask what's the most important tool.
Somebody else will answer brain, or persistence, and we'll all agree eagerly.
So far, so good.
And then we never get around to really discussing that which we all have declared the most important, returning instead to chat about some new gizmo that's just been released etc.
How about this?
We know pretty much about the Net, having studied it endlessly, right?
And we probably know a remarkable amount about the operating system on our PCs.
The Net, and the computers we use to access it, are all about serving the endless needs of the most important server of them all, our brain.
How much do we know about that?
How carefully have we studied the item that is the whole point of everything else we're doing in net biz?
Would exploring these questions be wildly off topic?
Or is the psychological state of our brains the real topic of net biz?
For me, this is the big limitation of organizing info in to tidy little categories. If we make the boundaries too narrow, we can easily miss the bottom line.
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:12 am Post subject: most useful tool
Hi,
You need an autoresponder - this converts being a marketer into having a business. After that it is your PC, on which you can write articles, and do amazing things. Surprised no one has mentioned it.
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The Net, and the computers we use to access it, are all about serving the endless needs of the most important server of them all, our brain.
How much do we know about that?
How carefully have we studied the item that is the whole point of everything else we're doing in net biz?
Would exploring these questions be wildly off topic?
Or is the psychological state of our brains the real topic of net biz?
Great thoughts.
Indeed the way how we use our brain is the most important factor for success or failure. How good we can organize ourselves, how we can motvate us, how good we can make a really strong vision of our future, and are able to lay out a plan and break it down into little steps to make it a reality. How much confidence we have in ourselves and in our capacity to learn new things or make things possible that seem so unreal. Our HABITS - in doing and in thinking.
Working on tuning that little machine in our heads will bring the most leverage, and it makes all the difference between the succesful people and the "losers". _________________ Just COPY the system from Ewen Chia. http://www.AffiliateKickstart.com
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:49 am Post subject:
Hi Andy, nice to chat with you again.
Andyz wrote:
Indeed the way how we use our brain is the most important factor for success or failure.
I agree of course.
So, if this is true, will we study the brain, this most important factor, with the same passion and determination we study subjects like SEO, perl, marketing, sales copy, and so on?
If that's of interest, we might begin with this.
Andyz wrote:
the way we use our brain
There's me. And there's my brain. One using the other. Hmm, two things.
How about the phrase "my thoughts"?
There's me. And then some thoughts. Two things, eh?
Try it if you like. Like most things, doing it is more useful than reading about it. There are probably some thoughts in our head right now. Let's take a moment and listen to them.....
Ok, welcome back.
So, what did we experience while listening?
Some thoughts. And ah-ha, somebody listening to the thoughts.
Are there two people in your head too?
When left alone without enough to do, sometimes these two inner people get to squabbling with each other, eh? Does it get kinda noisy in there sometimes? Yea, me too.
So, one theory of net business could be that this division between "me" and "thoughts" is what lies at the heart of most commerce in our consumer economy.
We've created this giant trillion dollar global buy/sell apparatus largely to keep our inner unruly children so busy that they don't have time to squabble too much.
Please, don't take my word for it. Do your own research. Test the theory for yourself.
Find a quiet place, go there, and don't do _anything_ at all, for as long as you can. See what happens.
We seem to agree our brain is very important, perhaps crucial, to our success.
But studying our brain can be hard work, eh?
Imho, that's why we keep rushing back to subjects like all the many mechanical details of web business. Less important to our success, but easier.
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject:
Hi Phil and All,
Einstein was working by the side of Lake Geneva. Every morning he would put in about six hours doing his thing, and then pack in and switch his mind off of his work.
He would then go out on the lake in his sailing dingy. This dingy could be operated by one person but that one person would be constantly occupied by adjusting the sails and whatever. His mind needed to be fully on the task of keeping his boat afloat – and off of his work.
It is said that each day when he finished his sailing session he would have the answers to many problems that he never (consciously) thought about while sailing.
Of course I don't know if that story is true or a myth. But sometimes . . . when we stop struggling to remember, someone's name, a film title, where we live, it pops into our mind from nowhere
Is this relevant? Maybe the best way to use our most powerful tool is to allow it to use itself, without interference from us
Perhaps when we have a raft of problems the answer would be to stop thinking of them by fully occupying ourself with another task.
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject:
Howdy Larry,
Hey, these are some interesting reflections you've offered here, thanks.
Larry Chamberlain wrote:
Maybe the best way to use our most powerful tool is to allow it to use itself, without interference from us
Sometimes just the grammar of the sentences we use can yield useful insights in to this stuff.
We are talking about our mind as if it is an object outside of ourselves. Our brain, a tool, we use. Me, and my brain, as if they were two different things.
Perhaps this very normal yet goofy concept gives us a peek in to the divisive nature of thought?
Larry Chamberlain wrote:
Perhaps when we have a raft of problems the answer would be to stop thinking of them by fully occupying ourself with another task.
Interesting, interesting.
Well yes, this is roughly how I perceive the consumer economy. Fully occupying ourselves with a big distraction to avoid a raft of inner problems.
One downside is that, because we are running from the inner situation, and not facing it, understanding it, and addressing it, our busyness takes on a compulsive addictive quality. To some degree, we aren't busy because we want to be, but because we psychologically have to be. Busyness as a drug.
One of the values of pulling the plug on the busyness for a bit is to bring that dependency in to focus, as it's easy to get so busy we forget why we're busy in the first place.
So, what is the problem anyway??
It seems that people in every conceivable situation have problems of one kind or another.
Which leads to a theory that the unique personal details of our lives are less important than the equipment we are using to observe those details?
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject:
Hi Phil,
Quote:
We are talking about our mind as if it is an object outside of ourselves. Our brain, a tool, we use. Me, and my brain, as if they were two different things.
Bit of a mindbender there Phil
Well yes, We think – Therefor we are – and As a man thinketh.
Is the mind and the brain the same thing? My mind is influenced (controlled?) by many things – prejudice, pride, anger, fear etc. But what of my brain? Is it merely a computer, pure logic Spock?
If so, which of those is my most powerful tool?
Quote:
One of the values of pulling the plug on the busyness for a bit is to bring that dependency in to focus, as it's easy to get so busy we forget why we're busy in the first place.
Yep, it's always good, and sometimes beneficial, to kick back and chill
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:04 am Post subject:
Larry Chamberlain wrote:
Is the mind and the brain the same thing?
Hmm. Does a hardware/software analogy work here? Given the rich diversity of cultures that have existed, it seems the mechanical device "brain" will run lots of different software.
Quote:
If so, which of those is my most powerful tool?
Ok, good. Should we back up to the beginning and ask again, is our brain/mind the most powerful item in our business tool box? Or not? Is trying to better understand this device a worthwhile time investment for our businesses, or not?
Are there any readers here?
If yes, how about a vote? Should this thread continue, or die?
Please cast your vote, and perhaps share your reasoning.
We say the brain is very important, but then we rarely discuss it. Perhaps we should clear that up before continuing too far in to details?
Quote:
Yep, it's always good, and sometimes beneficial, to kick back and chill But that can be a drug too
Good point. Typing can be a drug!
What's the right balance between action, and chilling?
I spend zillions of hours a week a coding software. It makes me feel very productive etc. But...
There are zillions of other folks out there doing the same thing. If I want to emerge from this pack somehow, I need breakthrough type ideas, not just dutifully pounding the code pavement all day every day. Hard work is NOT enough.
Where are those crucial ideas going to come from? That's the question that interests me, because those ideas are my business future.
Ok, that settles it. I'm going to the beach! Yup, no kidding. Will be back in a few days to see if anybody voted.
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